Welcome to No Boxes: Just Verses

Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.

No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today's top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.

Each episode is a deep dive into a guest's personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.

Podcast Episodes

  • Dec 15, 2025

The No Boxes Just Verses Countdown: Season 1’s Top 5 Songs and the Journeys They Shaped

A special countdown of the Top 5 most-chosen songs that shaped the journeys of our leaders!

  • Dec 8, 2025

Lisa DeCarlo & Lisa Shalett on Wall Street Careers, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, Big Pivots, Finding Purpose, and Co-Founding Extraordinary Women on Boards

Learn Lisa DeCarlo and Lisa Shalett's unconventional strategies for career entry, board service, and building the essential peer community needed to lead.

  • Dec 1, 2025

Melonie D. Parker on North Carolina Roots, Hampton University, HR Executive at Lockheed Martin, Sandia Labs, and Google — and Her Mantra to Add In Instead of Fit In

Melonie’s journey is a powerful demonstration that success is built one strategic move at a time, supported by a dedicated community.

  • Nov 24, 2025

Debbie Allen on Texas Roots, Howard, Fame, A Different World, Grey’s Anatomy, the Debbie Allen Dance Academy, Golden Globes, Emmys, an Oscar and Why Mentorship Is Her Greatest Production

Debbie Allen shares the courageous, unconventional journey—from facing segregation in Texas to tripling HBCU enrollment with A Different World.

  • Nov 17, 2025

Chloé & Maud Arnold on DC Roots, Columbia University, Founding Syncopated Ladies, Emmy-Nominated Tap Choreography, the Beyoncé Effect, and Leading the Next Generation Through Philanthropy

Chloé and Maud Arnold, powerhouse sister duo and founders of the viral Syncopated Ladies tap dance troupe, share their strategies for artistic entrepreneurship, leveraging education as a tool for access, and maintaining joy throughout the hard work.

  • Nov 10, 2025

Shannon Watts on PR Expert, Intentional Career Pause, and the Pivot That Led to Moms Demand Action, Bestselling Author of Fired Up and Firestarter University

Shannon Watts shares her authentic story of leaving a successful corporate career and taking a deliberate five-year break to focus on family.

  • Nov 6, 2025

Michelle Banks On California Roots, UCLA, The Golden State Warriors, Tokyo, Global General Counsel At Gap Inc., And A Hyper-Focus On Mentoring

Michelle shares her unboxed strategy for taking smart risks, building a career defined by cultural competency, and transitioning from the 24/7 demands of a Fortune 200 executive to leading a fulfilling coaching business.

  • Nov 3, 2025

Desirée Rogers on New Orleans Roots, Harvard MBA, Chicago Powerbroker to the White House and CEO of Black Opal and Fashion Fair

Desirée Rogers shares her "unboxed" playbook for strategic career pivots, revealing how lessons learned from managing utilities and insurance giants prepared her to revolutionize the White House Social Office and, ultimately, revitalize iconic Black beauty brands.

  • Oct 30, 2025

David Chun on Korean and New Jersey Roots, Investment Banking, and Building Equilar Into a Governance Leader

Learn how he turned deep-seated self-doubt into a Masterpiece Mentality, using his personal soundtrack—from the Pet Shop Boys to Journey—as a guide.

  • Oct 27, 2025

Ravi Kumar on Humble Beginnings and the Discipline of Water Polo to Big 4 Journeys at KPMG & EY and Leading at Connor Group

Ravi Kumar's journey is a powerful testament to immigrant grit, relentless perseverance, and why you should "Don't Stop Believin'" in your potential.

  • Oct 23, 2025

Felicia and Mica Mayo on Sisterhood, Family, and Building Community and Generational Wealth After Journeys at Nike, Tesla, and ServiceNow

Felicia and Mica's journey is a powerful testament to work-life integration, the strategic value of authenticity, and their mission to "lift as they climb" through their angel syndicate, Untapped Investing.

  • Oct 20, 2025

Debbie Taylor Moore on Cybersecurity, Quantum Computing, and Her Journey From ExxonMobil, IBM, and Microsoft to Leading Quantum Crunch

Debbie’s story is a powerful testament to the value of unconditional support, perseverance, and why the next digital threat is far more complex than anything we’ve seen before.

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