No Boxes:Just Verses

Welcome to No Boxes: Just Verses

Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.

No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today's top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.

Each episode is a deep dive into a guest's personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.

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Podcast Episodes

  • Monday

Rod Cotton on Overcoming Cancer and Career Setbacks, Healthcare Leadership at Roche, GlaxoSmithKline, and Baxter, and Driving Impact in the Boardroom

Rod Cotton and Shannon discuss the reality of career setbacks, the power of a clear identity, and how he now builds a legacy of impact in Indiana and across the healthcare industry.
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  • Mar 25

Dolores Robinson: From Small Town America to Becoming a Trailblazing Hollywood Talent Manager, Guiding Iconic Careers, and Building a Lasting Legacy [Part Two]

In the conclusion of our talk with Dolores Robinson, we explore the rise of a powerhouse who refuses to accept the boxes of the entertainment industry.
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  • Mar 23

Dolores Robinson: From Small Town America to Becoming a Trailblazing Hollywood Talent Manager, Guiding Iconic Careers, and Building a Lasting Legacy

How does a Dolores Robinson build her own ladder to the top of the Hollywood elite? In the first half of this special two-part episode, I sit down with a true legend who shatters every glass ceiling in her path.
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  • Mar 16

Sonita Lontoh on Starting at PG&E, Embracing the Unconventional Path, and Building a Global Career at HP and Siemens and Now Leading AI Governance and Innovation as a Public Company Board Director

Sonita Lontoh details her path from Jakarta to public board seats at Sunrun and TrueBlue. Learn her specific strategy to defy the herd and lead an unboxed career.
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  • Mar 9

Denise Froemming on Breaking Boundaries and Building Careers: From Wisconsin Roots to Leading the Largest State CPA Society in the U.S.

We discuss Denise Froemming's pivot from healthcare aspirations to accounting, the realities of family obligations early in a career, and the reasons she views the CPA credential as the ultimate career accelerator.
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  • Mar 2

Dr. Lena Cheng on Leaving Life as a Physician, Reinventing Through Healthcare Marketing, Co-Founding Best Friend Jack, and Finding Strength in Midlife Through Powerlifting and Dance

Dr. Lena Cheng shares her incredible journey of honoring her internal compass, leaving clinical practice behind, and building a highly successful second career in digital health.
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  • Feb 23

Ahmad Thomas on California Roots and Military Values, From Unpaid Intern on Capitol Hill to Investment Banker, and Leading the Future of Tech as CEO of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group

Ahmad Thomas shares his incredible journey—from growing up on a military base on California’s Central Coast to navigating the high-pressure corridors of Capitol Hill and Wall Street.
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  • Feb 16

Suezette Yasmin Robotham on Jamaican Roots and Florida Upbringing, Pivoting from Pre-Med to Education Reform, Leading Global Talent at Google, Meta, and Salesforce, and Authoring Beyond the Titles

Suezette Robotham takes us on her incredible circuitous journey—from a first-generation immigrant kid in Florida to the C-Suites of Google, Meta, and Salesforce.
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  • Feb 9

Craig Kielburger on Starting a Global Movement at 12, the Oprah Effect, Rising Through a Pandemic, and Scaling Social Impact Through Legacy+ and the My Legacy Podcast

Craig Kielburger shares his extraordinary journey from a suburban kid in Canada to a world-renowned social entrepreneur who has worked with everyone from Mother Teresa to the Dalai Lama.
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  • Feb 2

Calvin Harris Jr. on Maryland Roots and Morehouse to CEO of the NY State Society of CPAs and Social Media Influencer Putting the Cool Back in Accounting

Calvin Harris Jr.'s story is a reminder that your career is a marathon, not a sprint, and sometimes you have to lose your footing to find your stride.
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  • Jan 27

Dr. Thane Kreiner on Scaling Biotech at Affymetrix, Serial Startup CEO, Social Entrepreneurship, and Co-Founding the Black Corporate Board Readiness Program

Dr. Thane Kreiner’s journey is a testament to the power of resilience and making a plan to be someone.
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  • Jan 19

Daryl Butler on LA Roots, HBCU and Finance Beginnings, a Transformative Switch to Marketing, and Leading Marketing and Brand Partnerships at Nike, Jordan, Beats by Dre, and Google

DB takes us on a masterclass journey through his "jungle gym" career—starting in finance and accounting before making a bold pivot to sales and marketing that led him to shape culture at iconic brands like Boost Mobile, Nike, Jordan Brand, and Beats by Dre.
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